Clues people have sent in:
ashton: 01.10.01 See also: May 1, 1982 & May 1, 1984:
All say: Mao zhu xi wan sui Mao chairman ten-thousand years of age. (i.e., "long live chairman Mao!") I've seen the same thing in some of the early 80 pages. These three are all written in simplified characters found on the mainland (whereas in Taiwan and Hong Kong they use the complete, traditional, before-the- Communist characters).
clue: 10,000 years, etc., must be a traditional Chinese blessing. Compare these excerpts from a news story of July, 2001: BEIJING (UPI) Chinese President Jiang Zemin addressed his nation Sunday to celebrate the 80th anniversary of the Communist Party, described as the first in the history of the country to be so quick to correct its mistakes. "Glorious China, long live ten thousand years! Glorious people of China, long live ten thousand years," Jiang yelled to a long round of applause. "And the glorious Chinese Communist Party, long live ten thousand years!" By the way, the headline of the story was, "Zemin Vows to Take Taiwan - By Force If Necessary"
near a terminal: 11.16.01
clue: For what it is worth, I don't think these early ones are as simple as they appear. One of the few things I know about Chinese is that you count the number of brush strokes in a character. I think that is the way they set up their dictionaries. Somebody else pointed out that the hairs on the smiley person change. So even if the total number of strokes stays the same because the message is the same, the hairs could refer to different sources. Then they apply the number of strokes to that particular source. Also, I don't think any one of these ads is exactly the same size except for the full pagers. Isn't there something in one of their letters to the webmaster about typography matters and the amount of black and white or percentages or something like that. A clever gang could think of many variations that don't occur to somebody who just opens the paper and yawns.
clue: I don't know much, but I do know that when the Emperess Dowager left the throne in the early 20th century, the new Emperor (Pu Yi) was declared the Lord of 10,000 years. So as the other poster noted, maybe 10,000 is some sort of significant number in Chinese? Good luck :)
Perianwyr Stormcrow: 05.21.02
clue: 10,000 is generally used in Chinese for "infinite". So, to wish someone ten thousand years of life in Chinese is to wish them life eternal.
These early clues seem to me to hint at a motive for the whole thing. May Day as a holiday is a celebration of the working man as opposed to the capitalist. It is an important day for protests against the world bank, etc... There seems to be a preoccupation with the theme of money and banks in many articles, and these early messages have a very communist theme (May Day is an especially important holiday in communist countries.) Perhaps these are people engaged in extra-legal protesting who want to organize their protests without the police finding out? The rest could be just games. That's my best guess as to what this is all about.
I was researching Bushou/Kangxi Radicals and stumbled upon the first character in this image. The charcter has 7 meanings.  hair; fur; feathers; down  vegetation  ten cents; dime  gross; untouched; unpolished  panic-stricken; scared; flurried  very young; little  a Chinese family name. In looking for the next character I discovered that the base character represents a king. The explanation I got was (king: The three horizontal lines stands for heaven, man and earth. The vertical line connects the three means the power from heaven to the earth to rule over man.) But that isn't the full symbol. The symbol for king doesn't include the stem that arches back. I think that if we are going to tackle this logic problem, we need to actualy start with a translation. Has anyone actualy taken the time to fully translate this?
Attached is some info that might help. Its basically what you had already, but at least its confirmation. Post it where you will. The guy trying to find the translation one character at a time is wasting his time. You will need the Chinese_GB character set to see the graphics.hance: I just screencapp'ed it instead:
Been to busy to look at this for a while so apologies if I'm repeating things here that have already been said elsewhere. The Chinese has been deciphered but no-one seems to have commented on 'SR/CL : Richmond' - if it's a place that's intended there are umpteen to choose from, the 'SR/CL' I seem to vaguely recall has been commented on on another page, so at the risk of repeating what someone else has said I came across this very formula used in a contingency planning context to represent 'safety review / check list'. If that is what is intended by SR/CL then Richmond might be connected in someway with their own contingency planning. All of the adds with this Chinese phrase are different - the differences are probably the more important part. :-)
Richmond - University of Richmond, Virginia perhaps?
Ugh, I don't like to remember the May Day, although I was only 13 when the Communism fell. For me it was a day off from school, although we had to dress up in the nasty pioneer uniforms that were scratchy and already way too hot to wear in May, chant slogans, waive flags, look at the parade of rolling tanks and marching army and such stuff. But that was the fun part. The worse part was that my father and his friends would get detained, as a prevention, so they don't plot some 'contra-revolutionary' demonstration or whatnot. if not beforehand, he would get detained May 2nd, for not going to the march (though it would be versed as 'subversion of the republic' or something other). So it meant a lot. Nothing good. I therefore like pagan celebrations of spring much better than organized mass festivities of any kind. They can always turn ugly, and often they do. quoted from http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7141 titled "Have you ever celebrated Mayday?"
"Our modern celebration of Mayday as a working class holiday evolved from the struggle for the eight hour day in 1886. May 1, 1886 saw national strikes in the United States and Canada for an eight hour day called by the Knights of Labour. In Chicago police attacked striking workers killing six. The next day at a demonstration in Haymarket Square to protest the police brutality a bomb exploded in the middle of a crowd of police killing eight of them. The police arrested eight anarchist trade unionists claiming they threw the bombs. To this day the subject is still one of controversy. The question remains whether the bomb was thrown by the workers at the police or whether one of the police's own agent provocateurs dropped it in their haste to retreat from charging workers. In what was to become one of the most infamous show trials in America in the 19th century, but certainly not to be the last of such trials against radical workers, the State of Illinois tried the anarchist workingmen for fighting for their rights as much as being the actual bomb throwers. Whether the anarchist workers were guilty or innocent was irrelevant. They were agitators, fomenting revolution and stirring up the working class, and they had to be taught a lesson. Albert Parsons, August Spies, George Engle and Adolph Fischer were found guilty and executed by the State of Illinois. In Paris in 1889 the International Working Men's Association (the First International) declared May 1st an international working class holiday in commemoration of the Haymarket Martyrs. The red flag became the symbol of the blood of working class martyrs in their battle for workers rights. Mayday, which had been banned for being a holiday of the common people, had been reclaimed once again for the common people." ~http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5202/mayday.htm Here is some more information on the history of Mayday. I wonder if the French thing is a coincidence?
Rachel K. 06.24.2004
It says, in simplified Chinese characters, "Long Live Chairman Mao [i.e., Mao Zedong]!"
I'm beginning to think there is a definite connection between the "Long Live Chairman Mao" sayings and the matching "Long Live Chairman Mao" stamps issued in China on 5/1/1967. Again, the stamps can be found here: http://www.1-10-100.com/youpiao/wgp/yw2.htm and here: http://www.cpi.com.cn/cpi-e/shang/wenstamps.asp It is also worth noting that the name Richmond is well-known in the stamp-collecting world. This page describes Stanley Richmond as a "world-renowned stamp dealer and philatelist": http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/urban_buy/documents/02552149.htm Mr. Richmond is the president of the Daniel Kelleher Company, located in Boston. According to this 1998 discussion (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=352AFA85.416A%40Pursers.com), Stanley Richmond can be reached at the following address: Stanley Richmond Daniel Kelleher Company 24 Farnsworth St., #605 Boston, MA 02210
Interesting thoughts on the stamps and the Chinese Mao stamps from May 1st... Stamps do seem to crop up a lot on pages, and haven't they said that stamps and postmarks are important? Also, Stanley Richmond's initials are SR. Any prominent stamp collectors with the initials CL? Don't think it's that simple, but just a thought. Later announcements don't really follow what you'd expect from a couple of stamp collectors corresponding...
Nothing to do with this page, but in the first letter you got to your PO Box, the word on the ticket is almost definitely Afrikaans. Afrikaners spell "Time" as "Tyd", rather than "Tijd". Also, the "Per lugpos" stamp is the old South African Post etiquette for airmail. That's a winged Springbok (the same species as on the back of your Krugerrand). cf. This picture of the old South African Airways (Suid Afrikanse Lugdiens) emblem: http://www.classicjack.com/media/schabak+boeing+737+south+african+airways.jpg The same winged springbok. Most people in SA would associate this symbology with the apartheid era, but they may still be using the old 'bok on stamps. clue: More Afrikaans in one of the letters. "Het dit vanself vir hulle oopgegaan" is the same as the quote below: "It opened for them by itself"
Not to be too blunt, but Richmond, Va., was also the capital of the Confederacy (a seditious movement based on disagreements over commerce). And Mao was also a leader of a revolutionary movement. And Juls is right about 'SR/CL' being 'safety review/ check-list.
clue: its asking for help
Richmond is a place in CA. SR could stand for Santa Rosa. Between Richmond, Santa Rosa, and another place in Ca. The text is Chinesse... making since for the area since most people who live in the North Bay are Chinese. Funny, I know a guy from Tuscan, AR who is Chinesse who spent most of his time in SF. I hope this might help a little.
I now think that these early references to Mao are mainly pointing to the idea of 'Cultural Revolution.'
As i have not yet literated on my common theme theory , but so far ...in simple terms, and without giving "too much" detail...as some have already noticed there SEEMS to be a "grand theme" of "revolution"...CM Moa Tse-Ting as being a part of the communist revolution, hold ing a more marxist-lenninen type view, Cromwell...main figure in the revolution from the English Monarchy of the 16th century revolting to a "merchant" class of goverment eventually resulting in the parilmentary form we see to day, Martin Luther, who revolted against the Catholic Church and went on to form his own beliefs that pretty much centered around the King James Bible...Even Godel and Riemman who where huge factores in the "quantum revolution"...aloowing a more vast approach to hyperspace, and eventually string thoery these are just a few factors, there are more...I am putting together and easier document to understand. But basically, alot of the clues are connected in more than one way it would seem, like a large web...the awnser lying in the center? darque_phizzix
I've written a few other e mails at the end--so here's one I need to add, but at the beginning--what originally caught my eye about this site is this first post--some of these characters are similar to (more than similar) a tatoo I have on my spine--which reads from bottom to top "warrior with immortal soul" which adds to my last meesage about reading something into everything--which is what the character in Umberto Eco's book Foucault's Pendulum did and made himself crazy--
near a terminal 06.27.2005
It might help "Kat" to remember that these people are at pains as in they make a major point of it, that they really are crazy. In other words and I mean no offense, I'm not sure that Kat is focused on what is really happening. My experience is that anybody who cooly says Yeah, I'm crazy almost certainly is not. The majority and I think it is the huge majority of crazy people vehemently defend their sanity. That's part of what gets them committed and various officials, legal people, cops and so forth, are on the lookout for anyone who gets all excited when their sanity is questioned. These freak types are at pains to tell you they are crazy and then for years and decades they stay completely out of the hands of the police. At least as far we know not one of them is locked up. You can't really be nuts and pull that off.
Well, scrl is BASIC for "screen clear," so i would think it's a new message. Oh, I found this site just yesterday, and it rather piqued my curiousity. By the by, there's a Richmond in California, and guess who's on the home page --"Martin Luther" King.
hance - i thought that BASIC command was 'cls'
D. Thomasson 03.31.2006
The name "Richmond" in the title could be the key to all, or most all of the announcements over a 25 year span of ADW announcements. The name itself may not be that important, but what is most important is the gematria (number value) of Richmond. Here is the breakdown: R (18), I (9), C (3), H (8), M (13), O (15), N (14), D (4) 18+9+3+8+13+15+14+4 = 84 (7x12), also 8+4 = 12 As you look at all the announcements, notice how the number 7, or especially the number 12, is the key to understanding the announcement. Also, look at how 7 and 12 is used symbolically throughout the Biblical Scriptures.
D. Thomasson 04.09.2006
Make 10000 years a binary number, then convert it to other base number systems. 10000 binary = 16 decimal (1+6=7) Switch 16 decimal to 16 octal 16 octal = 14 decimal (7+7) and 24 pental (12+12) 10000 binary = 31 pental (3*1=3) Switch 31 pental to 31 hexadecimal 31 hexadecimal = 49 decimal (7*7) and 144 pental (12*12)
August Spies 10.26.2006
After sleeping on it, a simpler solution occurred to me. There are only so many things this could possibly or likely point to: the most likely is the appearance of the next announcement. So, as Thomasson explained, the numerical value of RICHMOND = 84. 84 represents the next announcement, as in: Month = 8, Week = 4. The next announcement appearred 8/24, Monday of the 4th week of August. Also - I suspect the importance of the Mao quote is not anything to do with Mao, but with 10,000. 10000bin = 16dec, suggesting hexadecimal (base 16). FWIW: 84/16 = 5.25, or 5 and a quarter - the cross-quarter day in the 5th month (May)?
Andy B. 01.09.2007
i've been trying to figure out the sr/cl, and there is an intersection in tucson about a half mile from the university of Santa Rita Avenue and Chauncey Lane. Probably just a coincidence, but maybe that's where a clandestine group of... somebodies... used to meet after school? or maybe that's where the treasure is buried! but seriously, someone in tucson should check it out. just in case. i just stumbled on this page and i'm hooked.
slade winstone 04.04.2007
Only just stumbled across this site and the mystery. Would like to point out in Cryptic Crosswords, that Roman Numerals and their decimal equivalents are frequently used interchangeably. Following on from this SR/CL might equal SR/150. Googling I find a wikipedia article for State Route 150 in Virginia, from the wiki article: "State Route 150, also known as the Chippenham Parkway, is a primary state highway in and near Richmond, Virginia, United States." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Route_150_(Virginia) Maybe some link between SR/CL and Richmond there? History of VA State Highways: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_state_highways_in_Virginia You gotta love the wikipedia...can't see any obvious links with the great red chairman though (long may he live :)) Maybe there's a red chairman with an address somewhere here?
While a lot of clues relate to Richmond, I haven't seen anything like this. So, if it pleases the court, I have a few possible clues: The SS City of Richmond was an immigrant ship active in the latter half of the 19th century, running primarily from Liverpool to New York City. Please examine both http://www.immigrantships.net/v3/1800v3/richmondco18820705_01.html and http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=ciric Also, the Ship Richmond was an immigrant ship active a century earlier with Philadelphia and Rotterdam as terminal points. Please see http://www.immigrantships.net/v6/1700v6/richmond17641020.html. Finally, the USS Richmond was a light cruiser (Naval classification for light cruisers all include CL) active from 1923 to 1946 all over the world. The USS Richmond was built and decommissioned in Philadelphia, in case you find that interesting.
wan sui is the same meaning as "Banzai" in Japanese.
Has anyone else noticed that SR and CL are two elements on the periodic table, namely Strontium and Chlorine? One has an atomic number of 31, the other 17. I'm not much of a math guy, but maybe someone else could do something with this
I was thinking that SR/CL: Richmond might point to a brigde in California. San Rafael-Richmond bridge to be exact. I don't know much Spanish but doesn't San refer as a saint? Therefor let's look at the bible...
I just wanted to point that the message was definitely written by somebody who knows Chinese or Japanese judging by the beautiful strokes of the characters. You can only achieve that if you study the writing for a long time. Another thing is his handwriting is very neat (look at the perfect line of ichmond) so i think it matters that his R is the biggest and that SR/CL are capital. Also my intuition is telling me he is an MD despite neatness in writing.
Comments: Some possibly relevant historical context: Sino-American relations in the 20th C were characterized by a large missionary movement led by Protestant evangelicals (Pearl Buck's The Good Earth is a familiar text.) The war and revolution did away with this, though China had decided early in the century to be rid of foreign rule. The debate about "who lost China" (i.e., to communism) was important in the 1950s. John Birch, of the famed society, was allegedly killed by the Red Chinese, etc. Sino-Soviet relations began to deteriorate in the 60s, and the U.S. saw a strategic advantage in approaching China. Nixon visited in (an annus mirabilis for these materials, you'll recall) 1972. Carter normalized relations completely in 1979. Maoism as revolutionary paradigm has been noted here before as one likely interpretation. But anyone who was concerned about Kennedy being a papist traitor would also have to regard the "loss" of China to American (or Protestant missionary) values as equivalently disastrous. The ruthlessness and total transformative character of Mao's revolution might then be another referent here.
Comments: Dont know what any of this stuff means to be honest and I hadnt heard about it before today, but I was In Hamburg recently, and I saw "(Scheduled) SR/CL MountainDew, 1981: FIND ME BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!" Written on the side of a building, at first I thought it was a Banksy grafiti, it looked like it had been stensilled, it was so strange that I wrote it down.
-bdh: If anybody has a photo of this, let me know.
an obscurant(?) 07.31.2008
Remember, Mistah Kurtz is /not/ dead. Chromatic, means more obviously, but you have two versions of this ad, recall. I think the others might have gotten the other pieces of Chromatic.
Comments: I am some what bothered by the money emblems. Apart from what cities they denote, man cannot serve both god and mammon. Yet, here we find holy emblems mixed with filthy lucre. The only panel without an obvious references to american currency is backed by Ve Ve Ve. One meaning of Ve is sanctuary from Old Norse, but that is an obscure reference. The section free of money is located in the Cromwell-Calvin quadrant (remember each irregularly shaped piece is actually a rectangular section in one non-euclidean geometry). Yet, all things converge on the atomic explosion. It is primarily a symbol of destruction, but to the physicist it is a sign of re-creation. The explosion marks the change of one atom into another, a sort of scientific transubstantiation. Given the anti-Catholic nature of our riddlers, this fact amuses me greatly. If I have missed a reference to money in the upper right then this applies, 66:003:015 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 66:003:016 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Those who love both god and wealth will be destroyed for their lack of certainty (better a satanist than a half assed christian). If the upper right is devoid of monetary symbols then I am puzzled. According to Revelations, a third of men, stars, etc. will perish, not 3/4. Perhaps the reference is not to Revelations.Sarah 11.18.2008
SrCl is a chemical (specifically Strontium monochloride). It is a molecule emmitter - the color RED - when heated. Does that do anything for anyone? Especially since we are discussing a Chariman Mao reference...
these symbols are entire words, letters all jumbled up in the symbol, first three i read to say, "tell him ilied" possible "shit sea" for the last two.
Further to the previous clue relating to the USS Richmond. - SR can be an abbrev. for "Seaman Recruit". - CL for "Cruiser Light". - The USS Richmond (1920-1946) was stationed on China Station for about a year in 1927 (during the start of communist revolution?)
Comments: About "SR/CL:" I found what follows on the web (in France) and I wonder if it has anythg to see with the announcement: " [Pan-users] ANN: Pan 0.128 "SR/CL: Leitmotiv: Toynbee Idea" Charles Kerr Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:59:45 -0700 This is another incremental release -- bugfixes, some speedups, a little more polish, and one of the better release titles in awhile. ;) Bug Tickets addressed in this release: 431247 "Add Scoring Rule" crashes if no article selected (Christophe) 432023 0.127 crashes when loading corrupted groups (Charles) 432024 Speed improvements when saving and loading groups (Charles) 431552 0.127 no longer stops downloading when disk is full (Alan Olsen) 430958 Get N Headers fails if group has small # of headers (Anon) 429449 Pan 0.126, 0.127 won't compile w/gtk 2.6.x (Jeff Berman) 429485 Articles marked read showing back up (Frank Tabor) 407301 All new articles are shown, regardless of score (Per Hedeland) cheers, Charles" at this address : http://email@example.com/msg03400.html Wiki knows a little about the Toynbee Idea (Toynbee tiles, an art project world wide ?) cf : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toynbee_tilesbhance - no, this looks like some software developer having a bit of fun an a newsgroup when talking about a software release. Nothing to do with the MM.
Bohemian Neuromancer 01/30/2011
This is what I gathered. MAO = Infinity, Ink, a type of card game (like crazy 88) SR/CL Seems to be Circle with a slash through, which is zero. The Chinese Kanji seems to be an ambigram that spells out "LINK" Richmond would go well connected to MAO(Ink) because there is a connection between the two. "Richmond Ink". so you seem to have 0 -> 0 which is the idenity of 0 and 0 which gives you the number "1" This game resembles the Game Mao. The dealer can not tell the other players the rules to the game. They have to figure them out as the go.
Comments: I bet it's a secret communist group and the is a coded numbering system offset by however many to identify the date for the next meeting with Richmond code for one of there meeting places. The 10,000 years bit is their motto
Comments: Year 1981 - 10,000yrs = 8011 BC. Both years had May 1st on a Friday. Probably insignificant, I'm not calendar geek so not sure if 0BC-0AD works...but just a thought from fresh eyes. (My first time here)
Can we confirm this is the first Ad placed in the paper? I keep seeing references to ads reaching back into the 70s. Is this the very first communication/message/statement/ad?
bhance: I dug for *years* and this is the earliest one I've ever found.
going out on a limb here, but perhaps SR/CL stands for Sauk River Chain of Lakes, which, coincidentally, is in Richmond, Minnesota? Minnesota is also known as the land of 10,000 lakes. 'Mao', while being a reference to Chairman Mao, founder of the Peoples Republic of China in 1949, may also be translated into 'hair' or 'fur' - The Sauk River was the chosen settlement of European fur traders in the 1850's
Or perhaps SL stands for Spencer Lewis who foundated the (AMO)RC in America. Their projects stands mostly in Africa. The Rosicrutians used to accolate their own initials to the R+C (with a plus sign not a slash). By the way, does anybody think that the creation of South Sudan had anything to see with those 4 horsemen of MayDay Mystery?
I'm new to this site, and I don't know if anyone has mentioned the Gang of four. They were a hugely leftist political group who tried to continue in Mao's wake, one of them was Mao's last wife as well. They were convicted (2 sentenced to death, 1 life imprisonment and 1 to 20 years in jail) in 1981. Possibly referring to that? Like a 'despite this one hurdle, we can still do it, long live Mao!' message? I dont know anything about the sr/cl: richmond except for the stocks (Stericycle Inc) and the place, but Im hooked on this! so Ill keep looking
May be SR is for the programming language "SR is a language for concurrent programming. The SR language can be used by instructors of concurrent programming or operating systems courses to give students experience in writing concurrent programs that use multiple processes, semaphores, monitors, message passing, remote procedure calls, and the rendezvous. The language can also be used for parallel computing in a shared-memory multiprocessor or a distributed memory cluster environment. Prerequisites for students are knowledge of a high-level programming language like C or Pascal and operating systems concepts." [see : ftp://ftp.cs.arizona.edu/reports/1992/TR92-09.pdf from Tucson, Az] And CL may be Control Language from IBM "Control language (CL) allows system programmers and system administrators to write programs using OS/400(R) commands and other IBM(R)-supplied commands." [see : http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r3/topic/rbam6/rbam6.pdf]