sent re: 02-may1.html
name: Bob
I submitted this a few days ago, but it didn't get posted. I'll try again. I apologize in advance for the length of
this submission.

Isaac got us off to a good start on this page (02-may1.html )with his note of May 1. But I think he was wrong about the location of the
meeting. If you follow the directions given in the ad, you arrive at the intersection of Front and California facing (roughly)
north. The Carnelian Room is less than three blocks away, at 555 California St., which is the Bank of America Building.

However, that building is to your left as you face the intersection; the ad directs you to turn right. Turning right at that
interesection, you face the 200 block of California. You're in the financial district, a block south of Embarcadero. If you do
a search for "200 California St." and "201 California St.", you'll find about what you'd expect for such an area - attorneys,
stock brokers, banks, etc. Dow Jones and its subsidiary The Wall Street Journal have offices in the area.

In the following block, there are only two buildings. To your right as you walk down the street is One California St. The main
tennant is a communications firm called AirTouch, which now appears to be a subsidiary of  Verizon. To your left is 50
California Street. Again, the tennant lists seem unremarkable, except that Bechtel has significant office space there.

After that, California St. obliquely dead-ends into Market St. There are no buildings on the right; the Hyatt Regency Hotel is
on the left. The hotel has three restaurants, none of which feature French food. Here's a map of the area:
Shorenstein owns the Bank of America Building, One California st. and 50 Californai St.

On the other side of Market (or perhaps under it; it's difficult to tell from the maps) is the Embaradero BART station. To the
north and east of the station is a ferry stop. So, while the directions seem to be pointing us to this part of the city, I've
been unable to find any location that appears likely to be tied to our friends.


The German being translated here as "today the numbers, tomorrow..." also appears on 5/1/2001 is  is translated there by
loungefly as "Today pay, tomorrow..." Altavista also gives this translation.


On the German Historical Museum (mentioned at the top of the text in the lower, right quadrant): one item there that might be
described as "the main item of interest" in the collection is the "Collectio Anselmo dedicata," a Ninth Century religious
document on church law, about which the Catholic Encyclopedia has this to say:

"Though as yet unedited, this collection is generally accounted quite valuable by reason of its abundance of materials and its
good order; it was also one of the most widely used. Its twelve books treat the following subjects: hierarchy, judgments,
ecclesiastical persons, spiritual things (rules of  faith, precepts, sacraments, liturgies), and persons separated from the
Church. Its sources are the "Dionysiana", the "Hispana", the correspondence (Registrum) of Gregory I, and various collections
of civil laws. Unfortunately it has also drawn on Pseudo-Isidore. It is dedicated to Anselm, doubtless Anselm II of Milan
(833-97), and is now held to have been compiled in Italy towards the end of the ninth century. It is certainly anterior to
Burchard (1012-23), whose work depends on this collection. The author is unknown."


OK. Here's the main thing. Through the years we've identified literally hundreds of sources for the items reproduced in the
Mayday ads, but I don't think we're any closer to a solution to the mystery than we were well over a year ago when I first
found this site. So here's a try at an overview of what might be going on here.

One thing that's struck me about the ads for a long time is an apparent undercurrent of anti-Catholicism. (This page certainly
qualifies, with its juxtoposition of a map of Vatican City and what Erik identifies as "666" and quotations from Revelations
about the Great Harlot.) That feeling was reinforced when The Orphanage went out of its way to declare, in response to a post
about another ad:

"In regard to the announcement of 28 August 1991, be assured that NO reference was ever intended or implied to John Fitzgerald
Kennedy.  NO participant in The Cause would ever, under any conditions or circumstances, make a favorable allusion to John F.

(For our foreign readers, JFK was the first Catholic U.S. president. )

The other day, I came across a term with which I was unfamiliar - "the Black Pope." The term is sometimes used to refer to the
leader of the Jesuits, who holds the rank of "general". I'm a bit reluctant to post the following link, because it leads to
one of the most hate-filled screeds I've ever come across:
...but it serves the purpose of making the point that there are people out there who think the Jesuits are behind everything from
the assassination of Lincoln to the sinking of the Titanic. The article's incredibly long, so here are a few excerpts to give
you an idea of its contents:

********************************************BEGIN HUGE QUOTE  *********************************************************

"The Jesuit General, and the other high Jesuit Generals, they are sorcerers. They are Luciferians, and they worship what they
would call Lucifer. They do not believe in Satan. They believe in Lucifer."

The Jesuits and the ones they control are "the ones in the government. They're the ones behind professional sports. The owner
of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight of Malta. The owner of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. All your top owners of
these ball clubs, for the most part, are Knights of Malta, getting the people whooped up in this hoopla over games and sports,
while they're busy creating a tyranny. So, that was one of the things in the Protocols - that they would create 'amusements'.

"Another one they used was Walt Disney, 33rd-degree Freemason - Disneyworld, Disneyland. Another one was Milton Hersey, with
Hersey Park. They create all of these amusements and games and pastimes to get the people drunk with pleasure, while they're
busy overthrowing the Protestant form of government."

"It's just like Freemasonry. The lower Freemasons have no idea that the High Shriner Freemasons are working for the Jesuit
General. They think that they're just doing works and being good people. But the bottom line is that the high-level
Freemasons are subject, also, to the Jesuit General because the Jesuit General, with Fredrick the Great, wrote the High
Degrees, the last 8 Degrees, of the Scottish Rite Freemasonry when Fredrick protected them when they were suppressed by the
Pope in 1773."

"Their ultimate goal is the rule of the world, with the Pope of their making, from Solomon's rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem."

"So, Loyola had an indomitable will. He had a will of steel, and he set his mind to regain back what the Papacy had lost to
the Reformation. And so, he went to the Pope, and the Pope in 1540 then created the Jesuit Order. But this man is a soldier,
he's a lawyer, and he put together a legion of soldiers and warriors to get back what Rome had lost, as well as institute a
World Government for the Pope, from Jerusalem. This was in 1540."

"Wallenstein and Tilly were the fanatical Roman Catholic generals who raped, pillaged, and plundered everything in their path.
But the Lord raised up certain great generals like Gustavus Adolphus from Sweden. He was called the 'Snow King' and he was the
one who ultimately, he paved the way for the victory of the 30 Years War. But without that Protestant victory of the 30 Years
War, the peace of Westphalia, which the Pope was not invited to, there would have been no modern era as we know it today."

******************************************** END HUGE QUOTE  *********************************************************

So I think you get the idea, pretty much standard conspiracy theory stuff. The point is that there are people out there who
BELIEVE all this. (By the way, Luther, Cromwell and Calvin also figure prominently in the article.) For a more balanced view
of the Jesuits, see here:
But even the Catholic Encyclopedia article cited immediately above says of the Jesuits:

"They became the main instruments of the Counter-Reformation; the re-conquest of southern and western Germany and Austria for
the Church, and the preservation of the Catholic faith in France and other countries were due chiefly to their exertions." 

As time went on, the order acquired great wealth, and it was booted out of country after country, only to come back at a later
date. It was even suppressed by the Pope for a period of time. (If you don't know the story of the suppression of the Jesuits,
take a few moments to look it up; it's wild stuff. But I digress)

I started thinking about all this in terms of the Mayday Mystery. The Orphanage apparently sees itself as involved in a fight
against some force, and the different elements of that force are divided into four categories: Pelagians, Revisionists,
Hirelings and Pigs. So, I came up with this:

Pelagians = Jesuits
Revisionists = Those the Jesuits "control," Knights of Malta and Columbus, etc.
Hirelings = Regular clergy
Pigs = Government officials in the Jesuits'  "control"

...and I thought that made some sense. But the more I thought about it, the more this Hierarchy made more sense:

Pelagians = Catholic Church
Revisionists = Jesuits
Hirelings = Regular clergy
Pigs = Government officials helping the church

Why? Well, the Pelagians were an early sect who thought that man can achieve salvation without the intervention of God. One of
the areas of dispute in the Reformation involved exactly this question. The Catholic Church at that time was undoubtedly
corrupt, deriving a considerable portion of its income from the sale of indulgences. The church taught that salvation could be
achieved if past sins were pardoned by a priest, the Earthly representative of God. (You could even buy indulgences for future
sins.) In other words, God did not have to be involved in salvation; the church - composed of men - could grant it.

The reform churches took a decidedly different view. Only by faith and the grace of God - forgiving man's sins - could
salvation be attained. So while the Catholic church was not taking precisely the position of the Pelagians, it agreed with
their position in one key aspect - that salvation could be attained without the direct intervention of God.

The Revisionists. Revisionist = "Advocacy of the revision of an accepted, usually long-standing view, theory, or doctrine,
especially a revision of historical events and movements." What was the first significant role of the Jesuits? To act as "the
main instruments of the Counter-Reformation." They wanted not merely to revise history, but to turn back history by the
"re-conquest" of the protestant states.

The Hirelings. As noted elsewhere in these pages, Jesus uses the term Hirelings to describe clerics who are not true shepherds
of their flocks. An anti-Catholic group would certainly hold that view of the Catholic clergy.

The Pigs. Again, as noted elsewhere, "pigs" was a derogatory term used by the youth culture of the '60s and '70s for agents of
authority, especially law enforcement officials.

So, it seems to me, this hypothesis fits in with a lot of stuff in the ads. It also fits in with a lot of what's been
communicated to Bryan by the Orphanage (their religious zeal, etc) and with the increasingly unrestrained anger and violent
attitude "the Pimp" has expressed toward their enemies.

Remember that at the time of the Reformation, the church wielded much greater temporal power than it apparently does today. It
could be that members of the Orphanage fear an attempt to re-establish that power, much as outlined in the article referenced
above with it talk of preserving our "Protestant ... government."

Go back to the 5/1/91 ad. One of the freaks sent the following to Bryan in regard to that ad:

"clue=Get the name of the Castle--it is important. If one of your European contacts does not know, then have a friend loan you
Scott's International Postage Stamp Catalog, or ask your able counselor,  Repubgirl.  After that, notice the THEME of the
Russian (Soviet) stamp--the point is obvious, but the designers (of the Announcement) also intended the various readers to
think of the Castle in the same context.  (This, obviously, is Second Level.) The Hebrew 
(under the Soviet stamp) is signficant on three (3) levels--even a literal translation will greatly aid Mr. Hance.  Pax tibi.

"name=From the growing number of your friends"

Repubgirl came through and submitted the following:

"The German stamp is of Wartburg Castle...where Luther translated the New Testament from Greek to German during his exile.

"I couldn't tell what the Soviet stamp was all about until I found a better graphic (below)'s a man kneeling on a dragon
= St. George slays the dragon.

"So, the theme here is the triumph of Christianity over evil?"

Well,  possibly, but if St George slayed the dragon, what did Luther and his works slay? Not evil, per se, but the Catholic

How does this hypothesis fit in with the broad themes of the ads?

Veneration of the "Heroes of the Reformation"? Seems to fit OK.

References to the British Empire? The British Empire was probably the strongest engine for the spread of protestant beliefs in
the history of the world.

Economic, stock, battle bond, gold, Brasher dubloon references? Could be describing the economic health of the group.

Early American history references? The lands that became the birthplace of the country were largely settled by protestants.

Preoccupation with time? This is just a hunch, but I think it might have to do with "the rapture."  The Hebrew referenced in
the 5/1/91 ad was translated by Ashton as:

"Habakkuk 2:3 ... 'for the vision is yet for the appointed time, it hastens towards the goal and it will not fail, though it
tarries wait for it, for it certainly will come, it will not delay'."

They appear to be awaiting some specific event.

Charman Mao stuff? I don't have a clue. Mao certainly suppressed the Catholic church, but he seemed to suppress all religions
with equal enthusiasm.

Math, physics, science, logic, crypto stuff? I don't have a clue.

Pop references? I don't have a clue.

But there you have it. I think there's a good chance we're dealing with some secret society dedicated to fighting what they
see as the evils of Catholicism.

Maybe this whole idea is wrong, and the veneration of the "Heroes of the Reformation" is simply a metaphor for something else.
But this is the best explanation for the content of these ads that I can come up with at the moment. I look forward to seeing
what you guys think.

hance - I think this is probably the best breakdown/possibility we have had so far...