Clues people have sent in for this page:
From Duncan McKenzie:
Mayday 1997: The legends with Greek and Hebrew letters at the bottom left and right seem to be associated with structures of the brain. The letters in ovals on the right appear to be in Hindi. Could SR/CL just mean "Circle"?
I think you already are aware of fact that Mistah Kurtz (in the big chunk of text rotated 90 degrees to the left) is one of the main characters in Joseph Conrad's novel "Heart of Darkness"; T.S. Eliot has the line "Mistah Kurtz-he dead" as an "epigram" for one of his most famous poems: The Hollow Men". Confessio Augustana (in the same chunk of text) is "The Confessions of Augustinus" and it was written about 400 AD so its 467th anniversary should be somewhere in about 870 AD and of course that doesn't make any sense at all (and above all it refers to Hotel California in the 900th century).Webmaster: Yes, I caught that reference to Conrad, but how it ties in is beyond me. Theory - This is a secret society, and upon entering the members have to pick some kind of weird alias? Which would explain why the logical historical ties never seem apparent? Or are Chemnitz, Kurtz, Luther all somehow related in a weird way?
How about connecting up the legends of the greek/hebrew letters with the next page? The Wid(c) -> (x)Q(x,p) seems to be a part of Gödel's incompleteness theorem.
The left hand side: nobody is going to check the reference to Nucl. Phys.? Well, I did. :-) It refers to an article "Virtual photons in chiral perturbation theory", by Res Urech (Univ of Bern). See here for more information: http://www.nucphys.nl/www/pub/nucphys/npb433.html
The Hireling, British motion picture about a love affair between a chauffeur and a wealthy young widow, based on a novel by L. P. Hartley. Released in 1973, the film won the Golden Palm Award at the Cannes Film Festival. Set in England during the 1920s, the movie examines the rigid class divisions in English society. While Lady Franklin (played by Sarah Miles) recovers from a nervous breakdown, she and her chauffeur Leadbetter (Robert Shaw) become lovers. Once Franklin has recovered completely, she breaks off the relationship, angering Leadbetter.
From Webmaster: I don't know if this really fits in. I mean, its mentioned once...could be random coincidence
Well, someone mentioned the connection between "The hollow men" and "heart of darkness". I wrote an essay on the subject some years ago, and using computer assisted analysis I found a massive amount of conections. Eliot intended to call the poem Heart of darkness but changed it at the last moment ( of so I'm told). Irrelivant most probably, but anyway.
++++++++++++++ email=haycockd----------------- clue=The central diagram is used is discussions of Einstein's theory of relativity and causality. There are two axes, one is space (Kairos-greek I believe) and the other is time (xronos-greek for time). A point on the diagram indicates a unique position in time and space. The "light cone" indicates locations that can comunnicate with each other with signals that travel at or below the speed of light.
clue: On the left side, rotated text, I see mentioned symmetry breaking and then symmetry generators. I don't follow it completely, but then they go on to say "seining the aigues mortes". The gist I get from the whole top half of that paragraph is that they are concerned that their cyphertext could be broken by brute force (symmetries seems to be a refrence to DES(refrenced before) as it is a symmetrical algorythm) so they are switching cryptosystems to perhaps a public key system (hence seining or signing).
clue: Doesn't the term 'aigues mortes' mean 'dead waters'? Considering all the physics and nuclear references it might point to Heavy Water. There are also many points about navigation and medicine and it could also apply to each of those fields. If you did a simpleminded diagram of the three fields of reference and overlapped the parts that refer to water or liquids it might show something that isn't evident.
near a terminal 06.21.01
clue: I should stay away from these damn things but can't seem to do it. The only further help I can supply at the moment is on "aigues mortes." The phrase actually legal but only heard about once every 10 years anymore. Comes out of Norman French and does mean "dead waters." Modern French says it differently. As you can maybe tell from the source of this communication (which is used by thousands of people daily) I'm near some references but can't find the current legal definition. This one is really unusual because I can't see but one or two other legal references in any of these. The only connection that jumps out is possibly admiralty--maritime law
near a terminal 07.05.01
clue: Still can't find what I know I read years ago on "aigues mortes" but I do have a lead. Somebody genuinely esoteric turned me on to a photostatic copy of a handwritten list of Anglo-Norman legal terms. It may take a week or so to get here even by FedEx but I'll get back with you then unless I am cured of this addiction first. Is there any way to know if law professors or appellate judges are mixed in with this? I guess the webmaster couldn't tell even if you know but there is some undercurrent in these things. It does remind you of famous conspiracies like the Massachusetts Bay Colony and even the Committees of Correspondence before 1776. It is one thing to be nuts and see sad cases like that five days a week but it is something different to be obsessed.
clue: I agree with "near a terminal" as to a conspiracy because the committees of correspondence were much like these ads in one very important respect--very public and yet they gave the impression of being harmless. A bunch of landed gentleman who liked to write to each other about contemporary issues, sort of brain-candy for the colonial upper class. Same way with these, too much money and too much time for normal people to invest, plus the high level of intelligence--but it has an "unconnected with reality" look about it that would keep them out of trouble.
near a terminal 07.23.01
clue: Took long enough but the stuff on Anglo-Norman legal terms came and it DIDN'T have the definition. This stuff is really obscure but I've seen those words before and will eventually find where and how it was used by the Anglo-Norman courts. Checking with other people did turn up several things that fit even if not exactly the definition. It looks like another one of their several-levels-but-one-reference technique. That must be a trademark of theirs but I've got a couple of the levels for this one. First, "Aigues-Mortes" is an actual place in the south of France. Second, the name came about because Louis IX built it as a port for the Crusades but the harbor filled with silt. No more water around the walled city so it was called "Aigues-Mortes". Third, Aigues-Mortes was a Protestant stronghold in the French civil wars. It holds a commanding position along the coast of the Camargue region--military stuff, that kind of thing. Best guess is that this is tied in with these people's fascination about "the eternal present" in the sense of "right now encompasses everything that has happened is happening or ever will happen." There are many references that I can't understand because of the math and physics but they are very keyed into time and stopping time or moving within the present moment--I can't explain what I didn't understand in "Intro to Physics" probably because my instructor couldn't understand it either. But these people are consumed by it which is kind of scary. It doesn't require a wizard to see that they are hardline Protestants. I wonder if these boys and girls are not looking to settle some old scores and are developing technology to do it. Maybe it really is a joke or some kind of frat ritual but when people who understand the physics--judging from their comments on these pages--look at the ads they can identify many of the pieces. It doesn't seem to actually be random especially when more levels get explained. Sooo, this page has multiple reference to Crusades, militant protestantism, a real geographic place on a real map and maybe a reference to the eternal present.
near a terminal: 09.04.01
clue: If you read the next one (in December)there is a reference to this date and "Laplace." I can't find his name on the page but the only major thing in French is at the bottom under the burning building or building with a cloud of smoke coming out of it. The French says, "Induction is founded on probability." The French is plural (probabilities) and I wonder if that refers to some type of listing in the December ad because it is a grid that could be read as graduated list. Laplace was a famous scientist and mathematician and that is all I know about him.
clue: What is a symmetry generator? Appears in the blurb on the left. You can even see the symmetry in the really big ads but I wonder if all of them have it but not so obvious.
near a terminal: 12.26.01
clue: More medical stuff, that's a theme that comes up again and again. Think of how much data could be pegged to parts of the body and just standard anatomy. But it seems like they have knowledge of procedures and the medications that go with them. Don't most reformers see society as sick?
clue: The Xronos/Kairos axes are also an interesting Greek concept. Chronos is time (ie, one thing happening after another). Kairos is also time, but it's a hard to follow concept, it's sometimes defined as "God's time" and sometimes is used in the sense of "it's time to go" (not necessarily by the clock, but by all things are now set so that leaving is right).
near a terminal: 02.27.02
clue: Look here is one of the references to the Brasher Doubloon. Somebody else said they had included a picture of a particular one in a particular location. Like it is on the web, anybody with access to Google can find it, etc. Well, look at the math that comes with that most recent picture or pictures of the Brasher D--if it really is the one in the Smithsonian or wherever, then that gives you an exact location, like down to a particular room in a particular building. Math freaks could then use the latest math to extrapolate a new position.
clue: Here's one that I don't think anybody has sent in yet--"theory attracts practice." I believe they are working out some kind of mathematically based theory along the lines of Maxwell, Kelvin and all the rest of the 19th century people who puzzled out the mathematical equations that express everyday reality apart from quantum mechanics. The part that worries me is I don't know what they plan to do with it when the panzer divisions are ready to roll. Maybe that was a bad illustration but if somebody could connect things that look very different (like finance and prime number theory) they could have power over the rest of us. That would also explain why the secrecy seems very real--they don't want others to know exactly what they are doing but they do need to communicate to correctly develop the theory. Everybody knew that Hitler was building a war machine but until he went into Poland nobody knew exactly what it could do.
near a terminal 06.26.02
I just read the alchemist contribution in the letters part. The quote from Gauss seems to fit what that person said. I don't know if it is alchemy but I would bet a small amount that some kind of research is going on. Even if others could tell that research was going on, if it looked really and horribly esoteric, your standard cop or even FBI agent would leave you alone. What harm could come from playing with numbers? That's what nuts do. In my not so humble opinion and trusting that this can't be traced I believe it would be a very smart cop who would think anything practical could ever come out of all these numbers and complicated relationships over time.
The sanskrit: Within the single-starred oval above the ship is the word "jaladhi" which means "ocean". Within the two-starred oval is the word "antyam" which translates to something like "ultimate" "last" and "beyond". I've found it used in all these contexts. In the three-starred oval is the word "maghyam". I can't find a translation for this word. However, the word can be found in the text here: http://www.vydic.org/pages/lord_lakshmi.htm The four-starred oval seems to contain the word "paradham" which can be found in prayer texts here: http://members.tripod.com/holy_98/real.htm and mantras here: http://www.chennaionline.com/festivalsnreligion/slogams/slogam43.asp However, the only translation of a similar word I can find is "paradhaam" which means "heaven" or "paradise". Just keep in mind, I am by no means even close to being an expert in Sanskrit, Hindi, Telugu, or any other Indian languages.
clue: 'Hotel California' is a reference to popular music obviously. I know there is/was a Finnish rock-band 'Worms' that made a 7' vinyl with the name '467th Anniversary EP'. There is a song on the vinyl called 'Luther-Spengler-Overdrive'. Luther and Worms seem to refer to the Diet of Worms and protestantism. Might be that the vinyl was recorded 467 years after the Diet of Worms? I don't know if this adds up to anything. Fascinating riddle in any case. Btw. the webmaster of this page seems to be a fan of Linux, which is another link to Finland. Linux was originated by a Finnish guy Linus Thorvalds.hance: ... I always thought it was 'Torvalds' :)
Bob - 03.27.03